As part of recent backend work done on SheezyArt, we have pushed out journal updates!
New Features:
- Increased Sexual Appeal
- Javascripted management and journal listing
- Journals now use the new comment system
- Polls in journals
- Privacy for journals
- Comments can now be deleted and reported
- File upload limit has increased to 50mb
Please keep in mind that advanced privacy features are not permanently free! They are in the system as an upcoming subscription feature and are in place to stress test our servers (privacy and access control put a lot of strain on our machines, and we need to be able to afford more to keep things up and fast!). When subs go live, all content that is not "Viewable by Everyone" will be simply made private and only viewable by the owner (which can be changed to be viewable by everyone) until the owner has a subscription! (Also, subscriptions will not take any features away. They will only offer new features!)
Bug Fixes:
- New artwork can now be set as a profile image
- Artwork can once again be posted to clubs
- [art] tags now work on the newer pages
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Hmmm, "SUBSCRIBE NOW... MORE BUGS!!!"
Please... please first make all current features work without problems/bugs.
Like... at the moment, the SheezyArt header is broken in Opera. (You can say: this site is not optimized for Opera, but when you want money for certain features, they better work in all browsers. When something is free I understand it may not work in every browser, but payment means: User pays, we make sure our services will work for at least 99% of the time in a way the users can uses it like he/she wants.)
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You can ignore me or not agree with me, but try to keep in mind, for the sake of SheezyArt, that I'll probably not the only one who thinks like this.
But, for the moment, I still like Sheezy and I'll stay for some time.
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Learn to design websites, then translate them. You'll soon see why I don't use Opera.
If I'm bluntly honest, it's Opera's bug. I'm not saying that Firefox or Internet Explorer are perfect, but I am rather angry that people put blame on a site developer, for a problem that's technically the browser's fault.
(Indeed, technically the site may not run according to W3C standards, however, the standards are of little use when all the browsers are so shoddy at doing their job. Yes, even Firefox, before any "FFFans" get involed.)
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Compatibility is annoying, and, I still dream of the day that you could write a website, and it'll look the same in all browsers. *sigh*
I do design websites, Opera never caused me problems in developing them.
I do make websites which look almost the same in IE, FF and Opera. (And previously also in Safari for Windows, Netscape and Mozilla.)
So I know what I'm talking about.
The trick is to make sure the (X)HTML you use is 100% valid; I don't publish a site until it is. (Even though browsers itself are not using these standards like they should be... but it does help greatly. [It also helps to not use any tools like Dreamweaver, I just write all my HTML files in Notepad/Notepad++])
(I've to admit though that I don't make really professional sites, but I'm pretty good at finding new ways to reduce HTML [and also CSS] errors.)
(It ís possible to make a website look exactly the same in FF and Opera, only IE is the exception sometimes, because it has weird things to render some code [but this should be fixed mostly in IE8 now])
Opera 10 (alpha version) is the only browser at the moment that is reaching the W3C standards now by the way, according to the site at least. (I might be wrong, I don't know about the FireFox test-versions at the moment...)
So, you publish sites based on it's W3C validity, and not it's compatibility?
You'll run into a lot of problems that way, especially with IE. The problem lies in how you write a site, not it's W3C validity. I once wrote a design using almost all %s and float values. Worked fine in Firefox, was W3C standard in first go, and only had one or two bugs in IE, which I fixed, quickly.
Someone went to the site in Opera, and boom. Everything collapsed into itself. Turns out Opera will layer Floating elements, instead of stacking them beside each other.
Besides the biggest problem I see in compatibility now is Google Chrome. They're gunna make the half baked Safari engine popular. Not good. :/
Priority one: valid HTML
When I've reached priority one;
Priority two: compatible with most popular browsers. (So at least with IE, FF and Safari (but I only can test it on a PC, so it's probably slightly different from the Mac view...) [and because I personally like Opera, also with Opera])
Until now, I've been able reach both of them.
I've also used http://browsershots.org/ once to check compability with other browsers, the site I've made passed almost all of them (except for the ones that have no CSS and JavaScript, but... WHY! NO CSS?!! Ah well, for some sites a browser like that might be useful. [And besides of that, it's just faster.])
But I've got to agree, when I just switched to Opera (I don't remember which version it was... I think something around 8.5, almost 9 maybe...) there were some weird viewing bugs. (That was the reason I always used FF to view SheezyArt) But then the update came... *insert dum dum DUM! music here please* ...and everything seemed to work fine again. So, with the current version of Opera, most viewing bugs are caused by the sites itself. (Because they are devolloped for IE most of the time >_> [Just because most people are too lazy to download another browser from the interwebs; that isn't a fair competition, but MS knows all about that now.])
So, your problem of the misplaced floating elements could be caused by the fact that you might have used an older version of Opera (probably the newest avaible at the moment) or that you've turned on "Fit page" (it's a nice feature for some webpages, but I mostly keep it turned off.)
Anyway; if the floating elements you're talking about are still showing up in a wrong way in Opera, I would like to see the page. I'm pretty interested now.
Why would you want to achive priority one if you can't achieve priority two?
The very idea of the W3C is to make a "language" (HTML is not Turin so I'm not very keen on the word Language for it.) that would work in any application, if you can get it to work the same in all browsers (Including Search Engines.) then you've no use for W3C "Validity".
I wouldn't blame sites for being programed for IE, while I have to agree, cross browser compatibilty is a very important thing, but it does go a bit far soemtimes.
IE does it's job, it's hardly anti-competetive for it. If Microsoft where to release an IE HTML standard, which the other browsers could follow, why not? I mean, it's hardly a negative effect, is it.
Oh, and I dunno if I still have said "faulty" design. I'll look for it sometime. >.>
And, by the way, my clubs updates page is just broken now.
In bot FF and Opera.
(Very weird viewing bug, but I've seen that one before.)
So, that are the bugs I'm talking about which should be fixed before the payment thingies arrive.
will we still be able to keep our layouts and such? Because thats what makes SA better than DA, its more personal. and if we're going to be like DA with subscriptions can we have a block-unfriendly-users list option even for people on the free accounts?
oh wow, didnt realised you'd replied already i just sent you a PM.
but what a bout the block-user option? it would be very usefull for users who get targeted by multiple trolls and bashers.
One question, will some higher up moderators still be able to view the "privacy" settings. I have a feeling that perhaps some users would take advantage of that, so I'm curious.
Other than that, whenever I try to load a journal from my firefox browser, it crashes or just goes to a blank page and reads "done." Anyone else having this issue?
PS. Sheezy got mah money. Twice. Double subby. Oh oh -raises roof-
New privacy features sound like a good idea CC, but why will we have to pay for it in the future, don't ads pay for the running costs? A big thing about SA was that all access was free. I am not sure it will rub too well with a lot of people.
Actually, your Avatar of what Sonic is saying, is what i'm thinking of right now to the subscriptions thing. What's the point of Subscriptions anyway, i never ask people to give me it. Heck i changed my real name on dA to tell everyone i'm happier without.
They are in the system as an upcoming subscription feature and are in place to stress test our servers (privacy and access control put a lot of strain on our machines, and we need to be able to afford more to keep things up and fast!).
The fact that Sheezy was entirely free was one of the things that made it pretty awesome in the first place. If you implement a subscription system, you might lose an already thin-skating userbase.
Also, people complain about Sheezy changing radically. According to some old elitists, Sheezy was hip and happening way back when, when the old layouts and old FP were in motion, and with change, it has brought upon many whining, leaving, resorting to trolling and the such.
Maybe change ain't so great.
Maybe you should rethink? I dunno, these are my two cents.
Oh, that's true.
Perhaps this is the general internet's fault, maybe anon trolls flocked here because they hate furries (and the site was heavily oriented on them before)? I could be wrong.
I'm sure you've heard of TASP, yes? While there's hope for that, it has just as much potential to suffer the same fate...
Oh wow. I don't understand why they want to abandon the community to make a new site based around community. When a site is small, the community sticks together well, but as it grows it becomes harder to keep things together. Ignoring that fact and creating a new site isn't going to permanently fix the problem, because the new site is going to run into the same issue.
So, it's not as if we don't want to keep things together. We'd love any suggestions!
...You're right. SA used to be just like TASP. Oriented around community. While they may seem like they want to be different, when it comes down to it, they will go through the same trials you do.
They really are no different, it is only a temporary chemo some users wanted to implement. It is kind of like the next in line. Perhaps they did not consider the long-term run?
That's not to say your site is going down the shithole though. I do believe you want to keep things together.
I may have some suggestions, but I believe other users have stated this already.
Rather than just making comments undeletable, you should put in a timed system where you have a certain amount of time, say, 15 minutes, to edit/delete your comment.
I've been spammed by haters and detractors for alot of things. Sometimes I'll go away for a weekend trip and come home to find tons of spam and crap on my pages. If they implement a 15 minute system like you're suggesting, then those comments are now no longer deletable and I'm the one screwed.
Just bring back the delete system like it was before. No need to get "fancy"
Absolutely true D:.... but i was suggesting the things people told me they'd like to change on SA to get back to what they liked before... You see, i was even thinking about asking you whether you wanted us to work together on some kind of... linkage between SA and TASP since I must admit I love Sheezy... it is my first virtual home, my starting point to a digital future full of people I would’ve never known without it. It's sad that a lot of users abandon it.
A community works under certain circumstances. As soon as it gets large you got to give it some rights accompanying harsher rules! And that's what we're trying to do, actually... what's a site without the users? Nothing, you said it. So the users need to have a word in what happens to the site. Prismind told me, you guys were working in the sense of the Community. When I asked him where we would’ve been able to vote or propose the new FrontPage, he said that these things were thought of and polled in clubs!
CLUBS!
The least sorted bunch of crap function on this page – I’m sorry. That was like saying that important laws were to be discussed in an unpopular old and forgotten boozer somewhere in Nevada!
But if you want to hear the community, make it visible on the FrontPage. Let them hear WHY exactly the server was down, ASK them if they want a new homepage and not just stab them in the back with a “feature” like Albums for music. Understand me, it wasn’t a bad idea to do this – but most of the SA Musicians don’t categorize their music or put them together as albums and they could’ve told you if you would’ve made a poll about it on the FP where everyone could’ve seen it.
Cut the trolls, ban them from the site!
Don’t ban users forever! If they care for the site other than a valve for their anger, they really would like to come back and behave and it doesn’t take you guys more than a keystroke to ban them again.
Don’t ban users from certain sections. It’s useless to have an account where commenting is disabled, so they will leave.
Don’t allow art to be uploaded that just SCREAMS to be harassed and laughed upon.
Value Art of every kind the same way as we had it a while ago, when every type of art had it’s own popular slot. If you are to keep the musicians and writers who do - and I’m not talking about myself – an awesome job then allow them to have their own popular slot since everything is clogged up with drawn art – easy and fast to view.
Sheezy is a good site and the new journals are just awesome. But why do you refuse to add some democracy? It’s so much easier for you too. I mean think about it, you make a decision and you’re responsible for it – all alone. People post, flame and hate you because that’s how they are. But if you go and let the people decide what’s good for them they’d just shut up since they would have to blame more people than they are and they just normally don’t have the guts.
But for the love of god, people ASKED us – for example - “We want an uploader in Flash that displays a loading bar“ so they could see what was going on – and it was so easy to do, too! I, as a logic nobrainer, learned how to use the fileReference class in mere two days. So why are we the only art site to do this?
TASP isn’t necessarily opposition to you. All we’re doing bases upon community wishes and ideas and that community was founded on Sheezy! Those are YOUR ideas but you refused to listen to them!
I hope there are no misunderstandings here; we’re not stopping the thought of TASP, not under any circumstance. The question is – Are we going to work hand in hand? Are we going to share resources, personnel - probably even the same URL?
It’s in your hands to decide. Do you want Sheezy to be loved by many as it is loved by me? Do you want a community site? Or a portfolio page? Probably even an art dump only?
I don’t know if an Art dump for anyone who’s able to recolor sprites with hue/saturation in Photoshop or Gimp is worth your programming ability and time…
However you decide to answer.
It’s going to be the right answer since you’re the only one who speaks for SheezyArt.
I love your work. But there were times I loved it more.
"Don’t allow art to be uploaded that just SCREAMS to be harassed and laughed upon."
And who would determine this? How are you to know that something you consider to be in that category isn't someone's honest to gods heartfelt creation that they view as the peak of their creativity? Some would consider anime fan art to fall into that category. Others would consider anything furry to be in that category. Still others would consider fantasy art to fall there. Yet others would say anything abstract would go into that category. Sorry, but if you start disallowing things that any apparent majority finds laughable and screaming to be harassed and you'll soon have a site with no submissions. And you contradict yourself by then saying "Value ALL art equally". That would include things you might think laughable and open to harassment, don't you think?
Now, I do agree that there are some things that should be culled and controlled. Pornography, for instance. There are sites where that's okay. An art site used by a wide and varied array of artists isn't the place for it because it becomes a liability issue for the site owners. Distributing porn can get site owners into boatloads of trouble if it's not handled to the exact letter of the law. Hate art is another of those things that should be purged. It's just not a friendly and open atmosphere if people are glorifying acts of hatred and violence or using their "art" to tear down other users, their beliefs or even their charished fandoms. It becomes threatening to the other users. But censoring on the opinion that something "screams to be harassed and laughed upon" really isn't a valid use of the idea.
You think we can't differ between "MS-Pain art" meaning an oval and two dots making a face? This would pass:
http://sheezyart.com/art/view/2040467/
You think we can't differ between an acceptably drawn "Sonic the Hedgehog" picture and a "Hue-Saturation -Recolor"?
This wouldn't pass:
http://sheezyart.com/art/view/2040692/
It's not about the category of art, not the type but the Quality. Also, it's not a moderators sole decision to delete or move that kind of art, another one is required to verify.
Also, your stance about pornography would've enraged some great artists like Michelangelo ;D. We made a rule saying that pornography is okay as long as it is
a) Drawn
b) The Persons are visibly over 18 years old
Shota or Loli are impersonating sex with children what is intolerable.
Plus, NSFW - Art won't be visible for users who are not 18.
Hate art is running against the TOS, anyways. If you fail to make it satirical enough but just for the sake of blaming and flaming, it will be deleted and you’ll get a warning. A warning is half a ban. And Bans on TASP are not permanent but long and will be issued a lot more often.
Nudity doesn't equal pornography. Michaelangelo didn't do porn. He drew nude figures. There is a difference. Pornography is inherently sexual in nature. For example a topless mermaid isn't necessarily porn depending on the context. However, showing a man with an erect penis masturbating would be because it's sexual.
Art "quality" is very subjective. In your example, I likely wouldn't pass either one based on my ideals of quality. The line art wouldn't pass because it looks like a rough draft rather than something complete. Obviously our notions of quality are quite different, which is the inherent problem in such rules. It's impossible to apply them with an even hand because of such differences of opinion.
I know there were some rather racy arts by various masters depicting Bacchannal celebrations(honoring the god Bacchus). I kind of don't count those because they are depictions of mythology and not done strictly for the sake of making porn like the pornographic images of today tend to be. I also mark a difference between modern porn and things like the Khama Sutra which was originally made as an instruction manual in sex of all sorts.
I agree with you. We need 'delete comment' back. This lack is pissing me off. Also all this java popup shit is driving me mad. I have to type things in different applications because it lags too much when I type it in the browser. wtf?
I don't want SA to become an elitist cash-cow like DA. I fucking loath that site which is why I left.
Could you add the comment removing option to the new comment system?
Because I like to remove some of my comments right after posting, if I see a mistake within them.
I agree with Meta Knight. The new changes have been making things worse but at the same time it has its good sides. Besides the subscriptions, the only thing I find wrong (in my opinion) is that you can't delete comments anymore. Also if you click a reply, the artwork vanishes and you have to refresh the page again. oh, and I had a feeling that you would say the page views were a April Fools joke.
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CC!
. We just want to add some more cool stuff.
i just sent you a PM.
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. We only have plans to offer some cool new stuff.
