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- May 14th 2009
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(So I don't have to engage in a comment war with another person... this journal is griping about people who haven't played the game since 1999 and have something to say about the quality of the new games. This journal is griping about people who claim to be expert players, but always have an excuse when asked for a battle or get an attitude when they lose. If you play this game, don't even try to be competitive, or enjoy the older games more, this isn't about you. This is the rant of an ELITIST attacking other WANNABE ELITISTS. Yes, I am that absurd.)
With the remakes of Silver and Gold versions having been announced, a lot of fair weather Pokémon fans have crawled out of the woodwork to express their opinions on the franchise.
"The first 150 were the best! These new Pokémon are stupid!"
"Silver and Gold were the last good Pokémon games!"
"The 4th gen games suck!"
Let's get one thing straight, I'm a competitive Pokémon player. However, Pokémon is a competitive game. Since the game was released over 10 years ago it has been to me about training up, not to just boot out the Elite Four, but to battle my friends and strangers alike. It was about holding my Gameboy out where everyone could see my red cartridge while I delivered the newspaper, so potential opponents had no reason to think I was playing Tetris. It has been about collecting the Pokémon and working with my friends to finish our Pokédexes.
For us, the true Pokémon players, it has always been about battling. It has been about trying to be the best, and to outsmart our friends. Even the slimiest of cheaters, cheapskates and gimmick users are still a tier higher than any person with the audacity to say the first generation was the best.
Some of these people never even finished the game, but it was the only one they played, so they think it is the best and stick by it as if that is somehow a valid point of view. More of them barely grasped the depth of battling retarded CPU opponents, avoided playing against humans out of fear of being dominated, and were lost when new items and Pokémon were released in the next generation. For these people, Pokémon was always beyond them, they just didn't realize it.
For the core Pokémon fan, regardless of what monsters and items spring up from generation to generation, we need to absorb it all. We need to learn it, understand it, master it. Anything for an edge over the opponent. We battle whoever crosses our path, we hone our teams to tackle any opponent. We barely care about the stupid storyline that drives the game, we just want to get it the hell over with and remember where move tutors and massage therapists are along the way.
So do me a favor. If you play the games and you think your triumph over the Elite Four is impressive, battle a real trainer who breeds and uses TMs intelligently. If you've got a gripe about too many monsters or items to understand, just shut up. This game isn't for you to begin with. If you think generation 1 on the GAMEBOY in 2 COLORS was the zenith of the Pokémon games, you don't even know what Pokémon even is.
Thank you for your time.
Poll: Ever had a Trainer avoid battling you because they stunk?
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Yes! | 24 votes
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Nope. | 11 votes
The Calm Minded Tai Says:
"If you think generation 1 on the GAMEBOY in 2 COLORS was the zenith of the Pokémon games, you don't even know what Pokémon even is."
wrong. The true fans found that the older games were the best because:
A.) 150 pokemon to remember was easier to remember than 493.
B.) losing a battle meant you "blacked out" and were sent to the outside of the LAST pokemon center you were at....and you kept all your money and experience.
C.) there were only really two cheats...missingno glitch and mew.....
D.) it was more difficult. enough said.
That being said, you have made excellent points in your journal there.
Yakkov Says:
I completely agree with you on this. Pokemon (Pocket Monsters) is not a cheap game, it requires the player to think. Hence why its very competitive.

I myself favor the Gold & Silver generation, but I like all 493 Pokemon equally. Maybe not as much as I like Mewtwo, but that's besides the point
I myself have been playing Pokemon since its debut ten years ago. To complete the Pokedex, and to always battle stronger opponents is what I do.
Pokemon is not just a kids game, its far more then that. Look at all the tournaments they have for it, rather it be the TCG, or even the game itself.
I have played both, and am even the video game champion for my state. But throughout my years of playing, I have seen kids to adults playing Pokemon. Its nothing to be ashamed of.
Cray Says:
I've honestly never seen the point in battling/fighting/over all playing a game competitively. For me, it sort of ruins the fun of it all. Yet, that may just be my fair weather opinion.
To me, the second gen was best because...well, it simply appealed to me the most, and still does. I've given all the gens a fair shot, but the only ones I truly enjoyed were the first two. Maybe it was just the fact of me getting older, or maybe I just clung on for the memories.
But, once more, I've always just played for fun, for a time waster. The Johto region delivered that to me. The music was amazing (for 8-bit anyway), the set up of the over world was great, I loved the character designs, I could finally be a girl trainer, and the second gen Pokemon seemed to be as appealing and fun as the original 151. After that....well, it just felt to get boring. The music got stale, the towns felt bland, too many unneeded things were added (I dislike contests, I always preferred that bug catching thing on the weekends), got rid of my Poke-gear, which I liked (A radio oddly fit, it made the trainer seem more....likeable, more human, and less silent faceless-protagonist)
Then after Fire Red/Leaf Green, I started really hating the overworld sprites. They felt too squished. The one thing I liked about R/S/E was its overworld. Many may disagree, but I thought it was a great transition from the GBC. Then they tried cramming more detail into sprites of the original size. I didn't feel like it worked.
So, as stated continuously, I only play for fun, especially when no one around here even considers playing the games anymore outside of the middle schoolers/elementary schoolers, and my wi-fi is a piece of shit with my DS.
R/G/B/Y were fun, but still sort of out there. They were the first gen, so it was obviously going to have some faults in the formula.
S/G/C felt amazing for me. It seemed like it actually held a slight plot, and had more things to interact with. The introduction of a real-time clock, day and night cycles (with the pokemon to be able to catch in each), the room decorating, the inclusion of a female trainer, and two regions instead of one was refreshing. A great step in a right direction.
R/S/E seemed more bland, but I was mainly disappointed that they went back to a single region. The weather inclusions were nice, though the new pokemon were less fun to me, I couldn't manage to enjoy them the same.
D/P/P was.....beh. I struggled to keep my attention to it. Wi-fi was introduced, but I ended up using it for voice chat more than anything. The pokemon were stale and hard to remember, in my opinion. The rival lost his intimidating charm that I grew to love with Gary and Silv.
But that's just me.
Oh would you look at that, I made one huge comment....oops.
I like cute pokermans
KeithKeiser Says:
If you play on a competitive level, that's fine. I just prefer to play casually. I play competitively on stuff like Call of Duty and Soldier of Fortune. But even then I'm having fun with it.
Rhemi Says:
I thought Pokemon was a kids game! No way it could have DEPTH.
Preed Reve Says:
Your quiz makes me sad.
Everyone knows I'm easy pickins:<Also...I think there should be more Pokemon...WAY MORE! LIEK OVR 9000!!!111one
Also also...Why won't they make a Yellow remake? ;w;
Also also also, How was the Tournament? It was last Saturday, right? Did you do good?
AaronGuy Says:
"My wifi is on the fritz"
"I still need to train my guys"
"My mom's going into labor"
I'm sure ALL of these sound familiar to you.
Phive Says:
I like this journal a lot. The competitive Pokemon scene is quite hard for me as I think better in the fighting game scene, where you can't stop and think for a moment, thus I often feel rushed and fail to choose a strategy. I can say I'm down right horrible, but that doesn't stop me from having a fun, trying harder, and learning what works better because that IS the fun part of the game. Not taking down retarded computers that use stat boosting attacks when they have the chance to kill you on the spot.
The two things that get me the most are
A) One thing you already stated with people just complaining about things, such as additions to the games for stupid reasons
but also (and this applies to all competitive games)
B) The people that put the competitive players down because we "take the fun out of the game." I mean, hell. I'm having fun, whether I win or lose. You're not having fun because you can't win for shit most likely. (Wasn't stated in the journal, but it still bugs the hell out of me).
SonicLuigi Says:
I feel like one of those old men in the pokemon games.
all my pokemon were really good back on crystal, but now my pokemon suck on diamond.
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I wish I could import them and such.